Monday, July 11, 2005

Thou shalt not kill

In Protestant, Catholic and Hebrew testaments, one of the ten commandments is thou shall not kill. Islam also takes a very clear stand on murder is not allowed without "probable cause." I can't think of a religion that doesn't criminalize murder. Well, when you come to think of it, most wars and deaths in the world happened for God... starting with the Roman Empire, Islamic Jihad, crusades, WW II, 9-11, and whats in between.... So we cant really take the religious folks very seriously in that department can we?

I say enough with that "the terrorists have a distorted view of islam, and thats why the west has a distorted view of us," and face the problem.

We need to get rid of that mono view system we have in place. You have one person, that people assume has a clean soul and devine wisdom, telling them what to do. We have authoritarian regiems. These unilateral regiems are backed with 1 religious view about much of everything, so if you are arguing with that man that wants to stay in power, you are basically arguing with god.

The young men that flew straight into concrete and metal on that september morning were not angry at the United States. They were angry and frustrated with their own situation... They never had the chance to voice their view in order to progress collectively.... All they got was a single tone message telling them: "the United States is the cause of your misery, and if you dont believe me, the quran right here said that 1,400 years ago." And since these societies didnt use the young mens' input and potential to develop any advancements, NOT EVEN WEAPONS (major necessity to them,) they decide to use the only thing they're left with; their bodies.


Blogger Evil Odd said...

Couldn't agree more with you. You took the words right out of my mouth!

7:42 AM  
Blogger The Joker said...

you know odd a, I feel we are partly to blame. We try to choose our words very carefully in order not to offend anyone when we fight back terrorism. From now on I encourage you and me and everyone else to speak out against it

4:48 PM  
Blogger Evil Odd said...

I know - we'll start an anti-terrorism group - no concessions will be given.

Muslims or not, I don't care. I'll go off!

3:21 AM  
Blogger Evil Odd said...


Anti-Terrorism Coalition of Bahrain...


3:21 AM  
Blogger $iLveR GiRL said...

Any terrible act that is committed in the name of religion should be disputed, whether it is Islam or some other religion. Yet, there’s always a civil approach when arguing in order not to offend anyone harshly.We ought to keep choosing our words carefully.

5:15 AM  
Blogger The Joker said...

"Any terrible act that is committed in the name of religion should be disputed"

excuse me madam... any terrible act should be STOPPED !! not disputed. Im sick of disputing... what rationale... what logic do you use in order to politely ask someone to kindly refrain from bombing others.

And Odd a, ATCB is a good idea

4:19 PM  
Blogger Desert Island Boy said...

Go easy on SG, you knew what she meant.

Seems lik ethe choice is between speaking forcefully or watching someone act forcefully.

I am not necessarily opposed to the use of force, I am opposed to being rasha nd indiscriminate, which is the crux of the problem.

6:48 PM  
Blogger The Joker said...

DIB, so its ok sometimes and sometimes its not? Not telling the difference is the problem? I beg to disagree.

And Silver knows I just get excited in arguments.. she got used to me by now didnt she?

10:38 PM  
Blogger Desert Island Boy said...

Well, the argument is going on right now. The world community can't necessarily agree with what is and is not terror.

I may not endorse it, but I can understand someone using violence in the pursuit of justice, or for resistance. The problem is not everyone may agree with what is just.

Remember, I also mentioned rash and indiscriminate. Hurting someone for the sake of hurting someone would nullify that. Using violence to impose the tyranny of the minorty, I won't stand for either.

Sometimes resistance will need to be violent. But the reistance has to be legitimate. Al Qaeda is NOT a legitimate resistance. or it ceased to be legimate once the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan.

Targeting civilians will NEVER be legitimate.

12:08 AM  
Blogger $iLveR GiRL said...

Excited ha? Shway shway 3ad!

"Al khelaf la yofsed lelwed qa'9eya, though!"

Thanks DIB. You're such a nice person :)

8:02 AM  
Blogger moodZ said...

I don’t think it’s the civilians that are targeted in those bombings DIB, Those attacks are desperate attempts to terrorize and shock other nations to prove that resistant does exist, and to eventually pressurize governments to listen to their demand through the pressure that is only natural to follow by the people.

As for the civilians, they are just “Collateral Damage”. Basically being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

8:10 AM  

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