Saturday, September 03, 2005

London Seminar

Gentlemen, thank you for your time and effort organizing an event attended by a few, and controversial for many. Now why did you choose to have it over there? The building where you had your nice, fancy powerpoint slides was the same establishment that put the ruling family you so madly hate in power. Did you know that, mr patriot? Now explain to me why talking about corruption 6000 miles away is a good idea? Wouldn't the presentation sound more intelligent in the place its talking about?
I mean I criticized the government before about cheap shots for popularity stunts, but playing the exiled, unjustified, man of the people is out of its time now. Please make use of the little freedoms we have right now... Don't shrink yourself to outcasts, or else you'll be stuck there.

And another thing. Mr. Ibraheem Shareef, I know lots of members of your family. Ma Shalla they are very professional at their work. Why does your presentation have many mistakes ? I mean forget the understated and blown out of proportion numbers in revenue; I'm talking spelling and grammatical mistakes. Did you write up that presentation in a hurry? Don't worry... London and popularity won't go anywhere.

Honestly, I would love to hear a presentation from you. Next time please take more time to make it realistic and presentable, and please make it around here so I can attend. Thank you.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

توضيح من جمعية العمل الوطني الديمقراطي بشأن "ندوة لندن"

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أصدرت جمعية العمل الوطني الديمقراطي بيانا توضيحيا بشأن عدد من الملابسات التي صاحبت مشاركة رئيس الجمعية إبراهيم شريف في ندوة لندن في نهاية الشهر الماضي، وجاء في البيان ما يأتي: أثارت مشاركة عضو الأمانة العامة للمؤتمر الدستوري ورئيس جمعية العمل الوطني الديمقراطي إبراهيم شريف السيد مع باقي الإخوة البحرينيين في ندوة أقيمت في العاصمة البريطانية "لندن" بشأن الوضع الدستوري في البحرين، وبتنظيم من عضو مجلس اللوردات البريطاني اللورد أيفبوري عاصفة من الاتهامات والتشهيرات الباطلة، لدرجة أن بعض أعمدة الصحف ومواقف بعض الجمعيات السياسية الموالية أو ذات التوجهات المذهبية المتعصبة قد عمدت إلى تحريف الوقائع والحقائق وخلق حال من الاصطفاف الطائفي البغيض، إذ شهرت إحدى الجمعيات بالمشاركين في بيان لها باعتبارهم "مرتزقة" للأجانب، وأصدرت مجموعة من الجمعيات السياسية الدينية والجمعيات والصناديق المحسوبة على مذهب معين بيانا مدفوع الأجر في الصحف المحلية كالت فيه الاتهامات وحرضت الدولة على محاكمة جمعيات المعارضة وقامت في الوقت نفسه بزج صناديق خيرية تابعة لها في معركة وهمية ضد أبناء الوطن.


واتهم أحد الصحافيين في عموده اليومي كلا من إبراهيم شريف السيد وعبدالرحمن محمد النعيمي بأنهما ذيلان للتيار الصفوي الذي نفهم بأن المقصود منه هم المنتمون إلى الطائفة الشيعية في بلادنا.
ونظرا إلى هذا التشويه والاصطفافات الطائفية والدعوات التي يرفعها البعض بمساندة من جهات رسمية والتي تهدف في محصلتها النهائية إلى ضرب الوحدة الوطنية وتحويل البلاد إلى مجتمعات مقسمة طائفيا يسهل حكمها من أجل ضمان استمرار احتكار الثروات من قبل القلة، فإن جمعية العمل الوطني الديمقراطي تود التأكيد والتوضيح وتحديد المواقف الآتية:
أولا: إن مشاركة إبراهيم شريف في ندوة لندن قد جاءت بناء على عضويته في الأمانة العامة للمؤتمر الدستوري، وتنفيذا لقرار المؤتمر الدستوري بتوصيل رؤية المعارضة الدستورية للمنظمات والشخصيات الحقوقية والسياسية العربية والدولية بشأن التراجعات الدستورية.
ثانيا: وإذا كان من حق السلطة تكوين "لوبيات" وتستقوي برؤساء الحكومات في الخارج، فمن حق المعارضة السياسية مخاطبة/ والتفاعل مع ممثلي الشعوب والمنظمات الديمقراطية والحقوقية في مختلف دول العالم لتوصيل مواقف ووجهات نظر المعارضة التي ترفض السلطة الحوار معها ويحجر على مواقفها في غالبية وسائل الإعلام المحلية.
ثالثا: ان غالبية الناقدين والمشهرين بمواقف المعارضة لم يتطرقوا إلى حقيقة أن المعارضة لم تدع في أي وقت من الأوقات لدخول قوات أجنبية للبحرين لتغيير نظام الحكم فيه.
رابعا: ان البحرين جزء من الوطن العربي وعضو فاعل في الأمم المتحدة والمجموعة الدولية وقد وقعت عددا من الاتفاقات المعنية بحقوق الإنسان ومناهضة التمييز، وجميع هذه العهود تلزم البحرين بمجموعة من القيم الإنسانية المشتركة والتقيد بمجموعة من المعايير والممارسات للحفاظ على حقوق الإنسان وبعض هذه الاتفاقات. وتعتبر المعارضة في الدول الديمقراطية جزءا من الحكم يحق لها تشكيل حكومات ظل والقيام باتصالات دولية والتواصل مع السفارات الأجنبية في دولها. والمعارضة البحرينية تقوم بعمل مختلف عما يقوم به أعضاء البرلمان والجمعيات السياسية الموالية وبعض رؤساء تحرير الصحف الذين يجرون اتصالات مع برلمانيين وسياسيين ودبلوماسيين أجانب فقد حضر رئيس الجمعية لقاء قبل عدة أشهر مع مساعد وزير الخارجية الأميركية الزائر للبحرين بحضور نائبين في البرلمان. وترى جمعية العمل أن من حق المعارضة السياسية كما من حق الحكم وأنصاره طرح مواقفهم تجاه القوانين التي تمس الحريات وانتقاد الأوضاع السياسية وكشف قضايا الفساد وتوضيحها للأصدقاء وغيرهم في البلاد العربية والعالم، حكومات وبرلمانات وأحزاب ومنظمات حقوقية.
خامسا: إن الورقة التي قدمها إبراهيم شريف السيد في ندوة لندن كانت بشأن الفساد ولم تتطرق إلى اختفاء ملياري دولار من موازنة البلاد بحسب تصريحات بعض أعضاء اللجنة المالية والاقتصادية بمجلس النواب الذين كان من المفترض أن يطلعوا على الورقة الأصلية قبل اطلاق تصريحاتهم. وقد تطرقت الورقة إلى تقدير قيمة الأراضي التي تم الاستيلاء عليها في غياب قانون ينظم توزيع الأراضي الحكومية البرية والبحرية، إذ قدرها رئيس الجمعية بـ 50 مليار دولار خلال ثلاثة عقود واعتبرها الشكل الأكبر والأخطر للفساد المستشري في بلادنا. والعجيب ان مجلس النواب الذي يستميت بعض أعضائه دفاعا عن الحكومة لم يفتح تحقيقا نيابيا خلال أعوام ثلاثة من عمر المجلس بشأن موضوع الأراضي وكيفية توزيعها والمستفيدين منها من أصحاب السلطة والنفوذ.
سادسا: إن جمعية العمل الوطني الديمقراطي ترفض كل الأطروحات والمواقف التي تشكك في شرعية الحكم أو الأسرة الملكية الكريمة وتعتبر الأسرة الخليفية جزءا من أبناء هذا الوطن يتمتعون بالحقوق والواجبات نفسها من دون تمييز لصالحهم أو ضدهم، وترفض الجمعية الاطروحات التي يتم تداولها في بعض الأوساط وتقسم المواطنين إلى "سكان أصليين" و"غير أصليين"، وتؤكد على مبدأ المواطنة المتساوية بين جميع أبناء الوطن المولودين فيه أو أولئك الذين استحقوا الجنسية بحسب شروط القانون بغض النظر عن أصولهم أو انتماءاتهم المذهبية أو الإثنية أو جنسهم، وتطالب الحكم بالبدء في مصالحة وطنية تعتمد على كتابة التاريخ الوطني بأمانة وتضميد جروح الماضي.
سابعا: ان جمعية العمل الوطني الديمقراطي تؤكد ثوابتها المعتمدة بانتماء البحرين للأمة العربية وحضارتها العربية والإسلامية، وتنوعها المذهبي والثقافي والتسامح الديني ورفض الطائفية وخطاب الطائفيين من الشيعة والسنة والتأكيد على السيادة الوطنية ورفض الهيمنة أو التدخلات الأجنبية سواء من الدول المجاورة أو الدول العظمى كالولايات المتحدة الأميركية ورفض استخدام أراضينا قواعد عسكرية للعدوان على دول الجوار.
ثامنا: إن تداعيات الاحتلال الأميركي البريطاني للعراق وما تمخض عنه من اصطفافات طائفية وقومية واثنية وتدخلات أجنبية ودعوات لتشطير العراق طائفيا وقوميا، هي كلها مرفوضة لدينا، وندعو إلى وحدة العراق العربي في ظل نظام ديمقراطي يحفظ حق الأكراد في الحكم الذاتي. إن على المخلصين من أبناء الوطن الحريصين على وحدة الصف وتلاحم الشعب مسئولية تاريخية جسيمة بعدم القيام بإسقاطات الواقع العراقي على الوضع في البحرين، إذ تؤدي مثل هذه إلى تشجيع الاحتقانات الطائفية بين أبناء البلاد وزرع الاحقاد والكراهية المذهبية التي لن تثمر سوى الدمار وبقاء البلاد بعيدة عن الإصلاح الحقيقي. وإذا كان هناك من درس نتعلمه من العراق فهو ان القوى الطائفية من كلا المذهبين قادرة على إشعال الأرض وما عليها إذا لم يتمسك المواطنون بمبدأ المواطنة المتساوية والعمل في مؤسسات مدنية مشتركة بدل تشكيل مؤسسات لهذه الطائفة أو تلك.
تاسعا: إن التحريض الطائفي الذي يقوم به بعض الكتاب والسياسيين من قبيل شعارات "المصب الرئيسي" و"اضطهاد السنة للشيعة لأربعة عشر قرنا" و"المشروع الصفوي" و"الهلال النفطي الشيعي" وغيرها من محاولات لاستنهاض طائفة ضد أخرى وفرز البلاد بمدنها وقراها ومؤسساتها المدنية على أساس طائفي، هي دعوات مشبوهة وتسويقية للمصالح الشخصية والذاتية والانتخابية، وهي دعوات تصب في المحصلة النهائية ضد الوحدة الوطنية وتعزز الطأفنة سياسيا ومناطقيا وجغرافيا وثقافيا وفكريا، الأمر الذي يذكرنا بمآسي بعض الدول التي ذاقت ويلات الحرب الأهلية الطائفية.
عاشرا: إن الدعوة المطلوبة في هذه المرحلة الحساسة من تاريخ المنطقة والبلاد والتي تتبناها جمعية العمل الوطني الديمقراطي هي مواجهة الطروحات الطائفية من أي كان، واستنهاض قوى الشعب في جميع مدن وقرى البلاد ومن المذهبين الكريمين والمؤمنين بالمواطنة والمساواة والعدالة الاجتماعية وتعزيز الحريات والحقوق والرافضين للطائفية بكل أشكالها، وهي دعوة صعبة أمام سهولة دغدغة المشاعر والعواطف المذهبية التي تشجع بعض جهات الحكم عليها، غير انها الدعوة الأمثل التي تنقذ البلاد من ويلات الأحقاد والكراهية.

http://mahmood.tv/index.php/blog/1848

http://jaddwilliam2.blogspot.com/2005/08/royal-dream.html

4:49 PM  
Anonymous Mahmood Al-Yousif said...

Let's not get too personal on this one as it is an extremely important issue:

1. how do you define patriotism? is it simply kowtowing to the regime, or is it rather wanting the current and next generations to have better prospects at life?

2. what does it matter if in presenting facts, grammatical and spelling mistakes abound? do these niceties detract from the basic facts?

3. Ibrahim Sharif and Abdulrahman Al-Noami should be epitomised, rather than ridiculed. Both are Sunni and both could get whatever government job they want, and get all the benefits and more thereof, however they choose to struggle so that the whole of Bahrain would have a better future. I certainly am NOT as courageous as either gentlemen and I wholeheartedly applaud their efforts. If they would consider standing for parliament I would be the first to join their society and vote them in.

4. What does it really matter that they're holding such a seminar in England? With the ready availability of the internet, the physical location is immaterial. They wanted to make the world cognizant of the fact that there are transgressions in Bahrain and they did it the right way. They did it in the city of the mother of democracy and had internet presence to boot. Democratically speaking, they have every right to hold their seminar anywhere on earth. As long as they ensure that their voice is globally heard not because of self aggrandizement, but for their genuine need for a better future for Bahrain. Citizens and Ruling Family.

8:57 PM  
Blogger The Joker said...

Don't get me wrong. When I said I would love to attend a seminar for Mr. Alsayyed, I was not being sarcastic at all. I really am interested in what he has to say, Mahmood and Anon.
First of all, I am sure they are all patriotic gentlemen, I don't doubt that one bit. But being patriotic doesnt mean being right all the time, does it?

About the mistakes, the presenter did not double check the material he was going to present, so how is he going to back some understated facts, like the yearly budget of 45 million when the ministry of finance on its website said 135? ( which is STILL understated in my opinion.)

Being sunni and chosing to form an opposition is very nice. They might be tempted (especially noaimi) with money and influence, but I understand what you are saying. They give the opposition all colors of society. But mahmood, just like they have the right to criticize the government from what their point of view, I am also criticizing what I think is not proper from their side, not to pass time and make fun, but to fix what needs fixing, from my point of view of course.

The place. If I have a problem in my home, I am going to fix it then and there. I mean the group that gave the assembly oppose the ruling family's absolute control, and their corrupt ways. That is very nice. Who put the government we have in place? Silver Girl had a very nice series on her blog about the recent political history of the Island, with Belgrave and the british empire, and how it craddled this VERY SAME government in power. What makes that very same institution a good spot?

I think there is a lot to be done. Especially on the opposition's part. But I wrote about what I thought was short coming from their side. If they asked me for pointers, I would say first make sure the presentation is solid and accurate, so we can easily argue for it and take a strong stand, second, make it near where we live so we can relate to it.
Other than that... Bless your hearts... you did a good job... with a little bit of effort you couldve made it a great job.

Thank you for passing by, guys.

10:50 PM  
Blogger moodZ said...

Let's not get defensive on the issue here people; the backlash the seminar is getting is just absolutely ridiculous, I simply had it with the accusations being thrown around here and there on everybody that even gets near the issue.

All of a sudden, everybody was divided into either a pro-government or anti-opposition! How hard is it to understand just because someone is anti-government in several issues; that doesn't classify them as 100% pro "opposition".. It is not a matter of taking sides here, but rather working, criticizing and condemning for the good of the entire country and the people altogether.

I carry a great deal of respect towards those who participated in the seminar -regardless of the overblown presentation of the facts and figures-, but could someone please tell me what did the Seminar in London give us? What good did it do to this country? Whatever it is that they called for over there was called for over and over right here! I still don’t get it! Why there? Why now?

I certainly will not argue with the fact of it being a right that should be respected "democratically speaking", but such seminar would be of way higher benefit if it was carried out right here in Bahrain. Before taking the issue "to the rest of the democratic world", shouldn't we address the people of this country? The people of concern? Those who are ignorant of what the "opposition" stands and fights fiercely for? Oh and they exist! Aren't they the ones whose hearts we should win?! Less than 50 people attended the seminar.. That’s less than the students in my junior high school classroom, hat have we accomplished but criticism and disparage?

On another issue, do the speaker really represent the "opposition"?! What is the opposition?! Who are the opposition!? What do they call and ask for? Overthrowing the government?! Calling for an Islamic shia state?! Callers of reforms and justice?! The constitution of 73? 2002?! Whatever happened to the old days, where once upon a time the "opposition" that had an actual leader, and crystal clear goal everybody was aspiring to?! And today we have figures calling for reforms كل يبكي على ليلاه .. وبمنطق دقي يا مزيكا

6:54 PM  
Blogger The Joker said...

Yeah.. see when I criticize them I am not doubting any of these gentlemen's patriotism one bit. I just disagree with what they're saying.

Ok they're the opposition, so they criticize, right? Well then they should have the stomach for criticizm too, and how it should be taken, to give the government an example of how an open society interacts.

We don't need to revolve the question around patriotism, because no one buys the newspapers' bullshit.

8:09 PM  
Blogger TariqKhonji said...

There is one main thing that bothers me about Mr Al Noaimi and Mr Sharif, otherwise I would vote for a secular party/society (whatever you call it) like theirs. It's that they are allying themselves with other societies who clearly have very different views and who have much stronger grassroots support. They need to think about what will happen if they achieve their objectives...people like Mr Sharif and Mr Al Noaimi will be sidelined in favour of representatives of Al Wefaq and other religious parties. We need to think about whether the status quo is better or whether we should have a religious state. Clearly the former is much better for everyone.

9:43 AM  
Blogger Bahrania said...

Lets clarify a few points:

-the seminar was a press conference arranged by the Committee that overseas the recommendations of the Constitutional conference that is calling for constitutional ammendments more in line with the 73 constitution. Headed by Jalila Alsayed with members from the 4 boycotting societies.

-those who participated represented the boycotting societies, human rights activists, representative from the unemployed committee, and independent thinkers like Abdulhadi Khalaf. Those who attended were a mix of journalists (Guardian, independent, aljazeera etc), I counted four from the Gulf Centre for Strategic Studies (PR machine funded by Bahraini government), and a few diplomats.

-Basically its just to raise awareness abroad about Bahraini people's grievances (or at least grievances of the people represented there), ALONGSIDE domestic activities that have been ongoing. According to the Committee overseeing/implementing the recommendations of the Constitutional Conference, international pressure from the UN, the media, is another effective why of lobbying for further reforms.

This is just to clear the confusion, since everyone is asking WHY...WHY London.


Comprende?

8:55 PM  
Blogger The Joker said...

bahrania, here's what I don't comprende... are they british citizens so they can lobby the british government? Do they pay taxes over there, to persuade thier state funded government to look to the direction they want it to?

If they were seeking political asylum over there.. thats another story.. but if its just a change of venue.. then no.. I don't really comprende

5:54 PM  
Blogger Bahrania said...

no tu comprende no es mucho problemo :)

10:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You ask this question This is just to clear the confusion, since everyone is asking WHY...WHY London. Here is your answer, Because this is what happens to people who protest in Bahrain.Nothing has changed Masked MOI thugs still suppress legitimate protest

ACTIVIST RAJAB HOSPITALIZED

FIVE OTHERS AWAIT PROPER TREATMENT AS A RESULT OF ATTACK BY STATE MILITARY FORCES

6th September 2005

The Bahrain Center for Human Rights (BCHR) has received today, with concerns, news about a well-known human rights activist, Mr. Nabeel Rajab, who was taken by ambulance to Salmaneyya Government hospital. Mr. Rajab was unable to move a result of severe back pain which he suffered when attacked by the Bahraini military forces while intending to participate into a peaceful demonstration by the Unemployed on July 15th, 2005.

The initial medical diagnosis showed a vertebral slippage in his backbone, which requires surgery. A delicate surgical operation of this kind is a great danger as any failure could result in a total immobility. BCHR demands that the Bahraini authorities to bear its responsibilities and save Mr Rajab from danger by arranging for immediate and secure surgical operation.

It is to be noted that a group of citizens, attacked by Bahraini military forces during gathering to commence a peaceful demonstration for the Unemployed, have been receiving medical treatment n public hospitals, but because of the deficiency of the process, some have reverted to private hospitals irrespective of their downgraded financial situation. These include:

1- Nabeel Rajab, 1964, Human Rights activist, vertebral slippage in back bone (currently in Salmaneyya Governmental Hospital)

2- Hassan Ali Fatil Al-sarri, 22yrs, recently employed, suffering from damaged nerves in his right hand (not receiving any treatment)

3- Imad Husain Abbas Madan, 1983, unemployed, receiving physiotherapy in his neck, difficulty of head maneuver

4- Yousef Ahemd Husain Ali, 1978, unemployed, still receiving treatment in the lower back bone.

5- Mosa abdali Ali Mohammed, 1981, unemployed, still walking with crutches, receiving physiotherapy and treatment in lower backbone and right leg.

6- Abdulhadi Al-khawja, 1961, Human rights activist, still receiving treatment in Salmaneyya Governmental Hospital for broken and malfunction of the upper frontal teeth.

These cases are amongst 94 individuals who were reported to be attacked in peaceful gathering of the unemployed on 19th June 2005 in front of the Royal Court and Riffa police station and on 15th July 2005 near the National Council Building in Manama. Among those attacked were 3 women, 3 human rights activists, 3 journalists. 69 of the victims were youths between 17 and 30 years old.

Although 20 individuals filed cases to the Public Prosecution Office after the two attacks on June 19th, no measures were taken by that office which encouraged the military forces to repeat its third attack on July 15th, less than a month from the previous. The Public Prosecutor has refused earlier to send his representatives to Riffa Police station to collect videos, evidences of attacks and witnesses, an attitude encouraged for the second attack in that station.

Two months have elapsed from the first and second attack, and almost 7 weeks from the third, but the Authorities in Bahrain have not responded to the numerous international appeals requesting an immediate and transparent investigation concluding in showing the facts, prosecuting those responsible, providing medical treatment and rewarding the victims as well as taking measures to prevent reoccurrence in the future.

The victims of attack have consequently decided to form a committee of their own and commence a campaign starting with meeting the King of Bahrain to furnish complete memorandum enclosing full details, proofs and photos. This is in addition to organizing popular activities to push the authorities to take up their responsibilities towards what had happened and preventing it from its reoccurrence.

BCHR is demanding the Bahraini Authorities to disclose the motives for the excessive force used against the peacefully gathered people, without an excuse, the justifications of using the militants who have been covering their faces with masks, and the names of the officials who gave the instructions. Also, BCHR demands the investigations in what appears to be a collaboration from the Public Prosecution Office, and its short fall in compliance with its duties towards the victims and their complains. BCHR demands the disclosure of the photos and videos which were taken by the authorities or those confiscated from the participants in these peaceful gatherings.

10:46 PM  
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